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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 101 points 1 month ago

Well, if there was any doubt there is one law for the rich & well connected, and an entirely different law for the 'plebes', this put that deep in the ground...

Someone should go rip that blindfold off of any 'Blind Justice' statues, it is just gaslighting at this point.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 13 points 1 month ago

This is Smith seeing his hands tied because Trump ran out the clock and then enough assholes put him back in office where the Supreme Court and DOJ policy blocks him from being prosecuted for [at least] the next 4 years. It also states that come January 2029 he can refile charges on a then dementia ravaged 82 year old man.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Lmao, thinking its still going to be legal to investigate trump in 4 years

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago

Remember when rational people in 2020 said Biden was too old and did t have it in him to fight fascism?

And the DNC said the president doesn't matter (but still had to be Biden) it was about the people they appoint.

Well, Bidens picks were Smith and Garland, and a bunch of other people who couldn't get shit accomplished.

Everyone needs to remember how Biden worked out, because in four years the DNC will want to run someone just like him again. And if they do we're fucked

[-] Docus@lemmy.world 97 points 1 month ago

An election in four years … I like your optimism and I hope you are right.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

If it makes you feel any better, you'll likely live long for the DNC to say the same thing against the next 5 Republicans, and maybe even a Dem candidate will get a death bed endorsement from Trump while Eric Trump goes on a rally your with the Dem candidate talking about how much the Republicans have lost their way since 2016...

Like, after Biden stepped down I told myself I'd vote D matter who like I always have. Because Biden had no shot in hell, and the DNC actually listened and I wanted to communicate that's all we've been begging for.

But I remember GW, I remember Dick Cheney was the real problem and Lil Bush was just a distraction.

But Kamala still trotted Liz Cheney around, acted like her dad isn't the biggest US war criminal in modern history, and tried to act like Trump was solitarily the one responsible. I still voted for her. But it ended up being harder than voting Hillary.

trump can drop dead as I'm typing this and not a damn thing will change.

I've lived through this series of events before. The vast majority of Americans have.

It's going to suck and we're going to lose ground, but there isn't a cat wrangler alive that can get republicans to agree and work with themselves.

They'll lose the House/Senate in two years. Maybe one, maybe both. But they won't get anything accomplished and they do t have anyone else to blame to motivate their voters in midterms.

They're going to have to eat that they got trump, the House, and Senate, and sure as shit aren't going to fix what they told voters they'd fix.

Stop saying the fight is over because neo liberals didn't get everything they wanted.

Start working on fighting our own party next primary so we have a chance of getting what America needs. If another neoliberal gets into the general, hold your nose and hope enough other people do too to mitigate damage.

Regardless of anything that happens, giving up is never going to work.

Fight every fight like it's the last, and no matter what happens treat the next one the same. This is what fighting fascism actually looks like, not voting once every four years.

[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Liz Cheney has absolutely nothing to do with Harris losing. According to the polls and everyone I know that voted and even those that didn’t vote.

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[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

Bullshit. The DNC said nothing. Biden wiped the floor with every other candidate in that primary fair and square. Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn't be assed to come out.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 1 month ago

Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.

Absolutely this.

Old-ass biden wins primaries because the only people who could be bothered to vote in ANY election that isn't just the general election, are other old people. They vote for the people most like them, fellow old people...

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[-] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why is it that every time Trump gets away with corruption you try to turn it into FUD towards democrats?

[-] irreticent@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's chronic with that user. The Boost app allows you to tag usernames and it's very helpful for tracking bad faith accounts.

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[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You can't lay that on Smith. He accomplished a lot. But, no surprise, a Trump judge derailed it.

[-] donuts@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

. “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”

We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump "won" and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.

Its a practical issue. Sure, you can can throw the president in jail. But they are still president. They can totally call the military to break them out.

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[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump's AG won't be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.

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[-] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

Key detail: they're not dropping it because they're giving up, the judge dismissed it without prejudice, which means that in 4 years they can pick the case back up. Under a Trump DoJ the case would likely have ended with prejudice, closing it permanently.

[-] ahal@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Even more motivation for Trump to abolish term limits.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

He can't himself since it's spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.

So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that's what it boils down to.

[-] ahal@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

I really hope that's the case. But if there's one thing I've learnt, it's that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago

At least it's a dismissal without prejudice which leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office and as long as the statute of limitation hasn't run out.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office

Assuming his lard-ass lives that long.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

You know how the courts love putting rich old white dudes behind bars, right?

Assuming of course we don’t end up with a Republican dictatorship after this presidency, then it’s all meaningless anyway.

[-] undercrust@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

A glimmer of hope, but at least, of the extremely limited options, this one leaves a shred of hope behind.

Still fucking awful and a complete condemnation of the justice system in the US, but POC in the States have known that for years, now it's just whitey getting shown how fucking biased it is to privilege and wealth.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago

A lot of us whiteys already knew

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

I can't say I'm feeling overly optimistic about anything worthwhile happening with this case after 9 years, when they failed to move forward in nearly 5

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[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 11 points 1 month ago

Until Trump’s DOJ decides to re-dismiss with prejudice.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

That can only be done if the case is presented again. You can't dismiss something that doesn't exist.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Get ready to find out that all laws are just made up and no one gives a shit if the other people with power let him do whatever he wants

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[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Who's going to revive a 10 year old political case against an 83 year old that's retiring from politics? In the US?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Who is going to stop Trump from pardoning himself?

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

He cannot pardon himself on a dismissed case.

He could. The president can pardon any federal crimes that's already committed except in cases of impeachment. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon even tho he was never charged with crimes. Now the constitution never explicitely said they can pardom themselves, but maybe the supreme court would let him.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Again, who is going to stop him? The presidential pardon is wide reaching, and no one has ever tried to pardon themselves before so there's no legal precedent. You think this supreme court is gonna stop him?

Also, he absolutely can pardon for something that was dismissed. Nixon got pardoned for something he was never even charged with.

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Lol he's dead by then. Are we puting a dead person on trial?

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

Legal justice has become a pipedream. The only options with any real chance of happening are vigilante justice or no justice.

Vigilante Justice isn't really justice tho.

He's just gonna get famous for getting "Assassinated".

He needs to rot in prison and die there so his name is tainted forever.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Agreed, but I don't see that happening in the absence of a legal justice system.

[-] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Do you have realistic ideas on how to make that happen?

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

I mean, we all saw this coming.

It still feels weird that you can’t jail someone in 4 years even if you prove they are guilty.

Americans should be rioting in the streets, let him serve from jail.

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I want this to be literally the only word on Merrick Garlands Wikipedia page.

Its not Jack Smith's fault, that's on the American voters. Well that and Merrick Garland

I honestly can't be mad. America voted. If anyone has the audacity to be upset when America falls to lawlessness and didn't vote to punish trump i cannot be concerned.

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