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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/30140601

Oleksandr deserted from the front line in eastern Ukraine after watching his fellow servicemen being pulverised by Russian bombardments for six months. Then, those remaining were ordered to counterattack.

It was the final straw for Oleksandr, 45, who had been holding the line in the embattled Lugansk region in the early months of the war. Even his commanding officer was reluctant to send his men back toward what looked like certain death. So when Oleksandr saw an opening to save his life, he did.

"We wanted to live. We had no combat experience. We were just ordinary working people from villages," the soft-spoken serviceman, who declined to give his last name, told AFP.

His decision is just one of many cases plaguing the Ukrainian military, which has already suffered at least 43,000 losses in nearly three years of fighting, President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed this month. The government is also struggling to recruit new troops. Together, these manpower problems present a critical hurdle for Ukraine, which is losing territory to Russia at the fastest rate since the early days of the February 2022 invasion.

The issue was put under the spotlight in September when 24-year-old serviceman Sergiy Gnezdilov announced in a scathing social media post that he was leaving his unit in protest over indefinite service. "From today, I am going AWOL with five years of impeccable soldiering behind me, until clear terms of service are established or until my 25th birthday," he wrote.

Figures published by the Ukrainian general prosecutor's office show that more than 90,000 cases have been opened into instances of soldiers going absent without leave or deserting since Russia invaded in 2022, with a sharp increase over the past year.

Oleksandr said that after leaving the frontline, he remembered little from the year he spent at home in the Lviv region owing to concussions he suffered while deployed. He recounted "mostly drinking" to process the horrors he witnessed but his guilt was mounting at the same time. He ultimately decided to return after seeing young Ukrainians enlist or wounded troops return to battle -- despite pleas from his family.

His brother was beaten during the historic Maidan protests in 2013 that toppled Ukraine's pro-Kremlin leader, and later died. His sister was desperate. "They're going to kill you. I would rather bring you food to prison than flowers to your grave," he recounted his sister telling him during a visit from Poland.

It was guilt, too, that motivated Buch, who identified himself by a military nickname, to return to battle. The 29-year-old deserted after being wounded in fierce fighting in southern Ukraine in late 2022 during the liberation of Kherson city. "Just staying under constant shelling gradually damages your mental state. You go crazy step by step. You are all the time under stress, huge stress," he said of his initial decision to abscond.

In an effort to address manpower shortages, Ukrainian lawmakers in August approved an amnesty for first-time offenders who voluntarily returned to their units.

Both the 47th and 53rd brigades in December announced they would welcome back servicemen who had left the front without permission, saying: "We all make mistakes." Prosecutors said in early December that 8,000 servicemen that went absent without leave or deserted had returned in November alone.

Still, Siver, commander of the 1st Separate Assault Battalion, known as Da Vinci, who also identified himself by his military nickname, said the number of Ukrainian troops fleeing the fighting without permission was growing. That is partly because many of the most motivated fighters have already been killed or wounded.

"Not many people are made for war," said Siver, describing how his perceptions of bravery had been reshaped by seeing those who stood their ground, and those who fled. "There are more and more people who are forced to go," he told AFP, referring to a large-scale and divisive army mobilisation campaign.

But other servicemen interviewed by AFP suggested that systemic changes in military culture -- and leadership -- could help deter desertions.

Buch said his military and medical training as well as the attitudes of his superiors had improved compared to his first deployment, when some officers "didn't treat us like people". Siver suggested that better psychological support could help troops prepare for the hardships and stress of battle.

"Some people think it's going to be like in a movie. Everything will be great, I'll shoot, I'll run," he said. "But it's different. You sit in a trench for weeks. Some of them are knee-deep in mud, cold and hungry." He said there was no easy solution to discouraging desertion, and predicted the trend would worsen. "How do you reduce the numbers? I don't even know how. We just have to end the war," he said.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

It's rough being on the smaller side. Rotating soldiers off the line is a huge part of not having people go AWOL. But a smaller force can't afford rotation. The next best thing is amnesties, building camaraderie (so they want to fight for their friends), and visibly trying to reduce casualties as much as possible.

At the end of the day if they can't get it under control they will lose.

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is another aspect which the article doesn't mention, so I better mention it.

Sometimes units have ****head commanders, but you can't get rid of them. Only anarchist armies (which haven't proven very effective) have elected their commanders, and even then, typically not in battle.

If a commander is stupid or careless (and sometimes tries covering up those qualities), it can take a while until someone of their peers or higher-ups notices. You can request a transfer away from such a unit, but the commander can deny the transfer.

In Ukraine, if you go absent without leave, you don't have to return to the same unit. So it's one method of getting away from stupid or careless commanders, or units which have been neglected due to organizational problems. So in a way, many people running from a unit indicates that it needs attention: something is wrong there.

Not knowing what it's like to be under hostile fire, I can't blame those people. As much reading tells, not everybody can take it. It is said that you can train everyone to perfection (the article tells that some get sent to combat with inappropriate training, which is obviously worse), but still, some people's nervous system cannot handle continued risk of death. They break down, and should be employed in other than frontline roles. And some people's health fails in other ways. A smart commander notices them and sends then back to the rear. Maybe they are good at logistics? Maybe they can build drones and do quality checking? Maybe they can treat the wounded? Etc.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I was interested in maybe joining the foreign legion but my research illuminated that the commander at the time was a dummy that would routinely endanger his soldiers unnecessarily. He might've improved but there's no way I'd risk it now.

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago

Pirates elected their leaders. Hell, we do too. POTUS is elected. So is Congress.

Pirates are notable because the supreme authority was 1 or 2 rungs of the ladder above you, which is the spirit of your comment.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

With Pirates the captain also wasn't the sole authority on the ship, just the military one. The first mate was the civilian leader, also elected. You generally don't want your war chief be the one solving disputes over who sleeps in which bunk: Even if they have the skillset that's not what you want them to worry about.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

"We wanted to live. We had no combat experience. We were just ordinary working people from villages"

This is the cost of war. Everyday people going about their lives with friends and family having their time on this world upended and cut short, all at the whim of some asshole putting their own ambition before the livelihood of others.

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