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Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s claim that he "had nothing to do with people not vaccinating in Samoa" during the 2019 measles epidemic is not credible.

While a 2018 vaccine mishap and subsequent pause primarily caused low vaccination rates, Kennedy's engagement with the Samoan government, his promotion of anti-vaccine influencers, and his amplification of misinformation contributed to vaccine hesitancy.

The epidemic caused 83 deaths, primarily among children, with a mortality rate over 1%.

Kennedy has since downplayed his role, despite evidence of his involvement in anti-vaccine advocacy.

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[-] Blackout@fedia.io 129 points 5 days ago

You'd think he'd be proud. They did exactly as he wanted.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 71 points 5 days ago

Wouldn't it be nice if he took the experience of not being proud and learned from it? Maybe even start to wonder whether his views might be wrong and stupid? But I guess he'll just try again with the whole of the USA, and again deny responsibility for all the deaths everyone can see he's about to cause.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Wouldn’t it be nice if he took the experience of not being proud and learned from it?

You misread the situation: just like the Nazis at the Nuremberg trial, he's in fact very proud of what he did, but he knows everybody else frowns upon it, so he downplays his role in the matter.

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 9 points 5 days ago

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

[-] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago

Alas, in this case the suffering is the point. It’s working just fine for RFKjr, and his handlers. But they can’t ’let the cat out of the bag’ before they get to try this on a larger population. So for now they have to maintain ‘plausible deniability’. Most of their base has never heard of Samoa, or at most think it’s a kind of cookie.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 5 days ago

You mean like voting Donald Trump?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Par for the course for these dipshits. Donvict's lack of useful action during Covid likely caused excess deaths in the hundreds of thousands.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You've obviously not noticed what ~~FDR's~~ RFK's last name is...

Generational wealth/power always results in asshats like this with more money than sense who's always been told their right, had every failing blamed on someone else, and a never ending like of sycophants after their money.

But they're confident and that's all it takes for stupid average people, because the idea of failing upwards is so far removed from their life they honestly just can't wrap their heads around ho someone that rich could be atupid.

[-] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

The fact he's trying to hide it, speaks volumes. He knows its wrong.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Not so wrong that he wants to prevent you and your loved ones from dying a miserable preventable death.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

RFK jr is a child killer. As in he killed children. Not directly but knowingly with misinformation that he used to manipulate others to cause their deaths. He is a fucking monster.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

This asshat is extremely dangerous to the lives of Americans and people worldwide.

If Brainworms is given free reign, it's quite possible he ends up responsible for more deaths than donvict's policies do in his second term (even if you count the victims of his stochastic terrorism). It might even surpass the amount of death attributed to donvict in his failures in his first term during Covid...

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Quite frankly, the one who should go to the slammer over this is whichever Samoan health official listened to a random American goofball giving him free advice on vaccination, regardless of whether the name of said goofball happened to be famous.

[-] djsp@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago

the one who should go to the slammer over this […]

Why not both?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm all for RFK Jr. doing time, but strictly-speaking, he wasn't in charge of Samoan health services. He is totally free to say any nonsense he wants to anybody, the person responsible ultimately is the one who puts the nonsense into action.

[-] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Strange, this is the first time I've heard of the Samoan measles outbreak. It does sound very similar to the RFK Jr Measles Outbreak though.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I heard about it before the election. I feel a little less crazy now that others are concerned.

[-] cowfodder@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

Going to once again suggest listening to the Behind the Bastards episodes about him. He's a psycho.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

John Oliver did a segment on him too. The thing that pisses me off most about RFK Jr is his use of a child's untimely death to imply COVID vaccines caused his death (when the kid wasn't even vaccinated against COVID). Shit like that is torturous to parents and as a parent it makes me livid.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Man that was a rollercoaster. First episode, I think I like this kid.

Second episode, yeah I do like him and he's also funny and a badass that threatened a cop in an incredible way to try to save his friend, when he could have saved himself.

Third episode, on yeah this guy is kind of a piece of shit.

Forth episode, he should be in prison for the rest of his life for what he's done.

YOU JUST KILLED A KENNEDY!

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Did they do one on Bannon?

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

What's worse... denying healthcare claims for money, or convincing people to avoid life saving care because your a dumb fucking idiot or have a nefarious agenda.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

Second one it's one thing to be a corpo asshat, it's quite something else to actually regress medicine

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The scary thing is if he's now in a position to spread total nonsense, with the power of the government, and nothing to really put a check on him, and no real platform that will go hard on countering his nonsense, he doesn't even have to outright ban vaccines. Enough people will fall for this asshattery to drive down herd immunity [1] below the needed thresholds and many people, including children, will die as a result from it. People already have a high amount of distrust in science and government, this weasel muddying the waters even more is going to make it very, very bad. Fringe freaks like him already cause problems at the margins, but it's about to get very, very real and weaponized and it will be aimed at kids.

[1] I still reel at the notion that the anti-vaxxer loons think that calling it "herd immunity" means that "THEY" are just calling all of us SHEEPLE and openly mocking us and daring us to "do our own research", hahahaha.

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Always avoiding the consequences of their behavior. Shameless ghouls.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

RFK Jr thinks nothing of the lives of the children he caused to die. It is all about him. Others are merely disposable objects. His whole life was all about himself. He fits well into the upcoming cabinet with the other self-important ghouls.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I look forward to hearing about this man's decisions AS THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

Just disastrous.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

i didn’t even know rjk jr knew how to write

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The F in RFK stands for Fucker.

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