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Was there even a mass exodus? I largely avoid Reddit now, but I do kind of doubt that they've been hurt in any meaningful way by all the protests and people leaving...

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I don't really care. I like it here more than reddit and if it stays like it is, awesome.

I have no desire to see reddit succeed or fail, I simply found a place I fit in better.

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[-] legion@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't leave to make the service worse.

The service got worse, and so I left.

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[-] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally I came over bc the app I used stopped working (boost). Lemmy seems to have the same content I used reddit for:

  • US politics headlines
  • Memes
  • Niche communities

I don't plan on going back to reddit unless it's via Boost. Fediverse is better anyway

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Poor one out for Boost! I'm on the waiting list for his new Boost for Lemmy. Can't wait.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy

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[-] bratorange@feddit.de 47 points 1 year ago

Is it important that Reddit suffers? For me the important thing is that lemmy flourishes and has good oc.

[-] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

I support this point of view, but at the same time I want the status quo to be disrupted and the internet to change, I'm not a fan of allowing corporations to fall into complacency when they hold so much power.

[-] Jagermo@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Right? Ignore them, have fun here. No reason to give any thought to them.

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[-] AnonymousBaba@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

it was about hurting the reddit ? i thought it was about finding a good alternative

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[-] iegod@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What I do know is that I'm happier having left.

[-] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

No, of course not. If you're using Lemmy as a "protest" instead of thinking that it's a better platform, it's totally ineffectual and you'll go back to using Reddit sooner or later. Personally, I think that the fediverse is a more compelling idea than the traditional internet, so I'm sticking with Lemmy for a bit in one form or another.

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[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I'd call it a mass exodus, and I don't know that it directly has anything to do with Lemmy, but there's been a noticeable dip in quality. Fewer posts across many of the front page subreddits, fewer votes, more bot posts, more low effort posts, less discussion in comment sections, lots of deleted comments and accounts... overall there just seems to be a dip in quality.

I was going to delete, but decided to stick around for a while first, to see how things pan out, and I've got to say the mobile site is even worse than expected. I get constant pop ups trying to direct me to download the app, then when I say no the website will auto reload, often sending me back to the top of the page. It's difficult to find and respond to anyone who replies to your comments, and sometimes if you sort by top: today it won't even show any posts. Just... blank. Clicking on a post opens it as a tab that is more like a popup, and closing it resets where you were on the page.

I could keep going but I think that pretty much summarizes what I've noticed. Don't know that it's directly related to a Lemmy "exodus," and I'm still finding my way around here so I can't really say, but reddit as we knew it seems pretty dead.

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[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago

We came to Lemmy for our own benefit, not just to fuck with reddit. Who cares if it hurt them or not? We're better off without reddit, and that is all that matters.

[-] irkli@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Define mass.... The giant Twitter exodus we can now know was maybe 10%, some to mastodon/fedi, the rest who knows. I'd assume the same for Reddit, pending any factual data.

And I suspect that many of those they left Reddit, reddit is better off without -- super touchy argumentative people kinda made a noisy bro-ish pass through, may be starting to calm down now... I hope.

The thing is, to me, to not worry about what "other people" are doing and stfu and build community. Post what you want to read etc. We don't need over 9000 million people we just need the right people who show and contribute and all that.

And so here we are!

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[-] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Im working on a case study for a publishing firm about the whole API announcement and subsequent fallout so I've been watching all this really closely. The thing I'm most anxious for is the data on web traffic to reddit and it's competitors, which I can only get on a monthly basis. It dropped a lot from May to June, which you could attribute to the protest or even the summer. However, Discords traffic increased during that time, and it was the only major social platform to change in either direction. I'm hoping to get some clarity once July data comes out but I don't think we well know for sure about long term impact for a while. Reddit I'm sure knows more but definitely won't share it publicly unless necessary, like if they do go public, but I'm not sure that kind of data would be included in a filing.

(I tracked traffic on similarweb and Semrush. Lemmy is on there too, but is tracked per server, and most were tracked starting in may or June so data is pretty limited and can't really be compared.)

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[-] pinwurm@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

The content on Reddit has gotten noticeably worse - but less as a result of Lemmy's existence and more of a reaction to killing 3rd Party Apps.

Unfortunately for me, some of my favorite communities haven't migrated over to Lemmy. So I'm still using Old Reddit Desktop to access them.

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[-] ComptitiveSubset@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Fuck Reddit. I’m here now and it’s great.

[-] DrVader@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ya, I'm less about screwing spez and more about enjoying my niche communities. I just couldn't enjoy it on Reddit Mobile - it's painful, the whole ux. Then since Lemmy works great and I still have my niche groups which I enjoy interacting with. Just makes sense. Reddit made a bunch of awful decisions impacting ux and it's unusable in my eyes.

There is a bit of me that still wants to use my old Joey app still. Hope that dev comes up with something, it was a great tool.

[-] jayemecee@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The effect is going to be long term. The most active users (usually 10% posters, 1% content creators and mods) were the most affected by the changes. Those are also the most vocal. And, probably the first ones to move here. Once those move reddit content will get worse over time which will make the other users move (89%) too. So yea, don't expect short term impact. It's the long run that matters

[-] Demonbooker@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The short-term is that reddit is scrambling to try to maintain the appearance of normality. Calling for volunteer moderators (Always Were.meme), and talking about their decreased financial stream show this. The rest is gonna be longer term knock-on type effects.

Ultimately though, as many others have said, I'm here and I'm not going back, so while the bad news is a little cathartic, I mostly don't care. Will they completely die, probably not, but they are dead to me.

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[-] ZachAR3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I found a large amount of the developer / programming reddits died, so I noticed a large difference but a lot of other subs there has been no change so it depends on what you are in.

[-] arc@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

I don't think any platform collapses overnight. What you have to do is do is make something "better" and engage in a campaign of attrition to get people to move over. Produce content that other visitors see and like. Submit links to that content to aggregators (e.g. Slashdot / Fark etc.). Even start submitting links on Reddit that lead over to Lemmy and so on.

Make Lemmy feel as normal as Reddit. People will get used to the interface, the quirks and perhaps stay. Every person who stays is one less for Reddit. Now "better" is doing some heavy lifting since Lemmy has some advantages (ad free, federated) and some disadvantages (inline media & limits, sign up confusion, app). The disadvantages need to be addressed and the advantages need to be made stronger.

[-] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

No idea, and I don't care. What matters for me is that there are enough people on Lemmy to keep it interesting.

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[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the larger subreddits shut down or turned into a John Oliver meme, one niche one I enjoyed is gone, the rest seem to be back to business as usual. At the moment? I'd say not much has changed.

Who cares, though? This isn't reddit, let's stop focusing on that and focus on Lemmy.

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[-] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I deleted my account. That probably showed 'em.

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[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Can't speak for anyone else, but as soon as RIF died I was gone. Was on it for over 10 years, and the only way I would view reddit content. Reddit's ui is cancer.

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[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I doubt there's been enough people moving to create an impact. I used to visit Reddit multiple times a day but now it's once a week if at all. When I have looked all my old subs look no different really.

[-] Hardeehar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For sure the quantity of posts is the same, but the quality has gone down.

You can just feel it all over. My frontpage has little to no good topics anymore. I used to peruse for at least 30 mins easily losing myself. I barely get 5 now before getting irritated with the low effort material.

[-] teydam@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I mean I try to go on reddit and the content just isn't what I am looking for. I know this is true for all of you. I know the internet is changing and fediverse things are the future. I am glad to be off the mainstream stuff and digging around in the weeds with folks who might give me a ride hitchhiking. I like to think of it like all the reddit traffic are people who would never give you a ride if you had your thumb out, but the people here would be the types that are more willing to take that risk and make a new friend. Overwhelmingly, hitchhikers will not hurt you and everyone has a great time. Dispelling the fear we live with is what this is all about too.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The whole obcession with Reddit is getting a little too much and continuing it is maybe a bit immature.

I mean, I get it: I've left a couple of jobs during my career (now spanning over 2 decades) because they did some pretty asshole things and I had a choice to move to better pastures, yet after leaving I still had a strong want for them to somehow be screwed for being assholes, kept wanting to know how things were back there and would've been happy if I found out they did go somehow screwed.

So it is understandable, IMHO.

However there comes a point when you gotta mentally go "I'm in a better situation now and they don't matter to it, so there's no point in wasting any energy on them" and stop looking back.

Sure, feel free to tell others about Lemmy (for said others rather than because of Reddit), but stop wondering about Reddit.

PS: I wrote "immature" because as I grew older it just became easier to turn another leaf and getting over the "old place", so I reckon it's maturity, but maybe it's just me.

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[-] Cipher22@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Several major subs have closed, they're forced to campaign to keep mods, a significant amount of content generators have left. Even though it's been only a couple weeks, they've slid on the global index of visited sites. They've lost 3-4% of 1.7 billion views in weeks. That's 10's of millions of ads not delivered. That alone is several million dollars lost on a site trying to be profitable. This doesn't include people on the fence, people currently unaffected because their app didn't die until this week, or people just watching the drama until it's boring again. Also, Reddit depends heavily on free labor to succeed, the bulk of the community that is leaving is their free labor pool. They don't have the cash to pay moderators for their time and they just removed the tools that let those people do their work.

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Profit wise, absolutely not. However, they are probably losing their most technical users. Generally the ones that have some sort of tech background or knowledge and see through their BS, and who are also much more likely to support open source alternatives (and third party apps) and have an easier time figuring out the fediverse. Maybe they care about that, maybe they don't (probably don't).

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[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

The timing of /r/place nullified any possibility evidence of an effect, as a ton of streamer featured this event, creating traffic. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a huge net profit this month.

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[-] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Their user numbers are available with a web search. Reddit useage dipped towards end of June but has mostly leveled out.

Quite a few mods left, which has had a larger impact than an equal number of general users leaving would. The niche topic sub I was involved in went from four mods to one half-hearted mod. The quality of posts has dropped. Almost every comment thread contains complaints. Reports are piled up.

Most surprising to me when I peeked at the sub this weekend was the amount of borderline-incel desperation and negativity. The sub is for a hobby that while slightly male majority, we had plenty of women contributing with minimal problems. Not anymore. If I were a woman looking at that sub for the first time, I would probably block it. It is so depressing and angry now, I barely recognize it.

[-] nathris@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I have to wonder how much of Reddit's traffic is bots and lurkers though.

Post quality is a bigger indicator, and that does seem to be dropping. This is why Reddit banning 3rd party apps was such a big deal. It doesn't matter if 99% of your users use the official app if 99% of the content posted to the side is posted by the 1% that don't.

As someone who was around for the digg migration, it didn't drop off overnight (hell digg.com is still around), but they gradually bled content until everyone was on Reddit. Lemmy right now is very reminiscent of early Reddit.

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[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I honestly rarely if ever posted on Reddit. I just had an account and used a third party app to keep up to date with some tech stuff. But their behavior so revolted me that I came here and actually got involved being on Lemmy.

While I doubt they ever made any money off the crowd that left (cos let's be honest, we know about ad-blockers, etc.), if the most active users left, their content will suffer, and hence the website's general attractiveness probably also will.

[-] soulifix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

If we're perfectly honest - No.

Reddit has over 53 some odd million users. Million with an M. Lemmy has gained, at most, upwards of just thousands. To call it a 'mass exodus' is really overselling it.

It's going to take a fairly long time, for Lemmy to even scratch 100k even. I'm on both Reddit and Lemmy. Lemmy, for a more positive experience. Reddit, because the numbers are just there.

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[-] AngryBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Lemmy right now is too.. well not clumsy exactly, but it does feel vague with all these seperate iterations like .world or .ml and they are seperate and require seperate logins etc so that’s not handy at all. People are used to ease of use, this is where (for now) Reddit remains king.

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[-] Chadarius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'm deleting all of my posts and comments on Reddit :). I did find Reddit very useful in many ways. That was when I was a participant in the system. Now Reddit is going to make me a revenue generating serf. So I noped right out of there just like I did with Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

I know lots of users are doing them same. Reddit would get lots of exposure from Google searches to useful information that users had posted. They are selling ads on the backs of these users that posted useful information. If I remove my posts (useful or not) they can't be used for revenue.

So at night I slowly go through my profile and delete posts and comments while I watch a show.

[-] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The point is not an overnight collapse. It’s gradual rot.

Reddit (Twitter, Facebook…) all exist because they created a monopoly around their service. Reddit through their incompetence created a competitor. They will have to work so much harder to make their ends meet now that there are alternatives. Worse yet, the viability of Lemmy will spawn other efforts.

Look at Twitter. Between Mastodon and Bluesky they are eroding. They have to beg advertisers to stick around. At the same time there is a bakers dozen of other efforts underway all creating a new landscape. Twitter was the king and now they are rapidly becoming one in a pool of microblogging services. They will wither.

Reddit just popped it’s monopoly and will also fail.

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No idea man. I'm just happy to have some place new. I don't think about reddit anymore unless someone posts something about it.

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