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[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 183 points 19 hours ago

There is a lot about this that is nuts, but one thing that really jumps out at me.

It seems like Netanyahu is planning an October surprise to shank Harris. And it seems like he is doing it in broad daylight. It certainly seems like a massive offensive strike on Iran one or two weeks before the election is a straightforward way to throw a close election to Trump.

But with this I have to ask: are Biden and Harris assisting with a plan that is clearly intended to cost Harris the election?

I want to say that they surely must've told Israel not to launch anything before election day. But based in their actions so far, it doesn't seem like they're imposing a "no election interference against us personally" requirement as a condition of their assistance.

I guess we'll see.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

This is one of those times we should remind ourselves that if we as Redditors can plainly see something so out in the open and obvious, then almost certainly the executive branch can see it too. The odds of them knowing something we don’t know are overwhelmingly greater than the reverse.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 13 points 12 hours ago

Nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a Democrat.

[-] Fox@pawb.social 133 points 19 hours ago

Their messaging so far to Israel has been "do whatever the fuck you want, 💰💰"

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"You give me money, I give you weapons of war. You give me money, I ignore the screams of children."

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago

[the sound of children screaming has been removed]

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Oof. Horrific.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 37 points 17 hours ago

The insanity is not that it is Republicans or Democrats

The insane part is that America is just sleep walking straight into a war that will probably escalate into something much bigger and no one wants to do anything about it.

God help us all

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Make me homelander and I’d shut this shit down in a heartbeat. Until such time best I got is a pencil check in a box on paper.

[-] sol6_vi@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

you can still john wick with that tho

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 9 hours ago

Maybe you can.
All the money I’d earmarked for kung fu lessons and a collection of random lethal weapons wound up going into pet care and hobbies. Besides, I definitely don’t have plot armor. I’d get popped by some junior security mail cop. They probably wouldn’t even have to shoot me. They’d run me over with their Segway, I’d fall, crack my head open, and they’d put a little skull and crossbones sticker on their scooter, like a WWII fighter pilot.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

"Never underestimate Joe Bidens ability to fuck everything up". --Barrack Obama

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I know this is a dumb question, but is that based on anything? Like a paraphrase of something? Or just headcanon?

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 62 points 19 hours ago

I would much rather see a Harris administration handle this than chaos Trump.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 57 points 18 hours ago

This is a weird thing to say, but I actually don't think that there's any indication that Harris or Trump would do anything substantially different with regard to Israel, but the biggest change is that if Trump wins, I suspect that coverage of this will disappear behind all the coverage of his domestic chaos. At least if Harris is president I think there is a chance we see the press maintain a modicrum of interest in covering this.

Either way, words can't describe my anger that Harris appears to be prepared to throw the election over her support for genocide. It is an unreal situation to watch.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 70 points 18 hours ago

Fuckface 45 literally said that Israel should "finish the job":

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240628-trump-let-israel-finish-the-job-in-gaza/

I'm not voting for that Fuckface. Neither should any intelligent person.

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[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Its also weird that Trump rallies are full of Nazi flags but Israel still sends them similar bribes anyway.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Zionism is an anti-semitic ideology. It was concocted by atheist colonizers, not religious leaders. The goals are colonial, not religious. Most importantly zios commit these crimes while claiming to be the only true jews. This is extremely anti-semitic.

So it's no surprise that they've collaborated with literal nazis before WW2. And it's no surprise that they continue to collaborate with racists and fascists all over the planet. In the usa the vast majority of zionists are christians that are generally very anti-semitic. They want jews to take over palestine so doomsday will come and kill the jews! These are the allies of zionism smh.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Zionism is an anti-semitic ideology.

A significant number of jews across the globe say otherwise. The very foundation of your argument is self serving propoganda. And I didnt read past that.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

Trump in charge tends to highlight problems not burry them. Like how immigration and the border camps were a huge story, then Biden got elected, kept all the same staff and same facilities and suddenly the border camps weren't a problem and we went further rightward on immigration. People stop paying attention when Democrats win, that's how they burry stories, and that's why the media loves Trump, because hes the one who generates the clicks and engagement they track.

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

It’ll disappear by him shutting down all news organizations and outlawing any dissenting opinions. He’s straight up said it. There is no functional difference on this issues between them. It’s the ancillary consequences trump will impose on everyone that is why he should be fired into the sun as an example.

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

She most likely was in the room when Biden authorized the troops you know. She is very much on the same page as Biden on this.

Sucks you guys don’t have any other option.

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago

Trump would tell Netanyahu to nuke the place and he'd fucking do it. It would be a catastrophe the likes of which we haven't seen since WWII.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

It seems like Netanyahu is planning an October surprise to shank Harris. And it seems like he is doing it in broad daylight. It certainly seems like a massive offensive strike on Iran one or two weeks before the election is a straightforward way to throw a close election to Trump.

Do you realize that israel government is waging war only because they are backed by USA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not sure what your point is.

I understand that this is in a real sense the US's war, and that Biden is not being dragged into it, he's fully committed to it. I'm not sure what that changes about my observation that it's weird that Harris appears to be facilitating an electoral hit job on herself.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yes, and zios will be even more backed by Trump (supposedly).

It's not even a hidden thing. Yahoo wants Trump. Grift recognize grift.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

If Harris is in on a plan to strike Iran it wouldn't cost her the election in the US. All they have to do is say, "We received credible intelligence that Iran had decided to sprint for a nuclear warhead. We had to act in a timely manner."

What would cost her the election is if an American soldier dies to an Iranian missile and Biden/Harris doesn't immediately go hard on Iran. Which makes this a ridiculously irresponsible move by Biden.

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